{"id":8437,"date":"2022-06-10T07:58:18","date_gmt":"2022-06-10T07:58:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.booksofall.com\/id\/?post_type=product&#038;p=8437"},"modified":"2022-06-10T08:00:18","modified_gmt":"2022-06-10T08:00:18","slug":"the-next-step-in-saving-the-planet-e-o-wilson-and-sean-carroll-in-conversation","status":"publish","type":"product","link":"https:\/\/www.booksofall.com\/id\/the-next-step-in-saving-the-planet-e-o-wilson-and-sean-carroll-in-conversation\/","title":{"rendered":"The next step in saving the planet: E O Wilson and Sean Carroll in conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4 id=\"standfirst\" class=\"article__standfirst\">Edward\u00a0O\u00a0Wilson made his name by arguing that two apparently disparate things \u2013 human society and the natural world \u2013 are governed by the same principles. Sean B Carroll made his name by unifying the study of humans and animals, showing that development in both is driven by the same fundamental molecular and genetic processes. So what happened when these two scientists were brought together? They decided to unify all of biology.<\/h4>\n<aside class=\"article__aside\">\n<div class=\"article__aside__section article__share-buttons\" role=\"group\">\n<p>arroll visited Wilson\u2019s office at Harvard University for a free-ranging, hours-long chat. It covered concerns for the future and reminiscing about the past \u2013 and morphed into an idea for a global campaign to unite biologists behind the common cause of saving the natural world, a prerequisite for understanding it.<\/p>\n<p>They began their conversation, excerpted below, by discussing the threats to our planet\u2019s biodiversity.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong><br \/>\nAt what point did you know enough as a scientist, or had travelled enough, that you perceived a threat to nature?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ed:<\/strong><br \/>\nI knew it when I started going into the tropics in the early 1950s, but it\u2019s the sort of thing you see and you don\u2019t grasp at first. I saw ruined environments in Mexico and parts of the South Pacific, and I used to say, \u201cOh well, they messed that one up. That makes it a lot harder to go to the rainforest; I have to go way over the mountain range.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We only began to put the big picture together in the 1970s and 1980s, which allowed us to think in terms of what could be preserved and how we might be able to do it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong><br \/>\nYou\u2019ve looked at this picture globally \u2013 you\u2019re far more experienced than almost any biologist in this \u2013 and looked at how large a task this is. Let me make sure I have an understanding of where we would start. Would we start with habitat protection? Is the first job, before we lose anything else, to protect the ecosystem?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ed:<\/strong><br \/>\nAbsolutely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong><br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s something people can do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ed:<\/strong><br \/>\nAbsolutely. That\u2019s what the best global conservation organisations and our government (and other environmentally inclined governments, such as Sweden and the Netherlands) are doing: protecting the remaining wild environment. This is the equivalent of getting a patient to the emergency room \u2013 keep them alive and then figure out how to save them.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.conservation-careers.com\/conservation-jobs-careers-advice\/conservation-organisations\/\">The global conservation organisations<\/a> are doing everything they can on modest budgets. They essentially promote setting aside reserves and parks around the world. Recently, in the book\u00a0<em>Half Earth<\/em>\u00a0(due out in March 2016), I\u2019ve made the case for global reserves that collectively cover half the surface of Earth\u2019s land and sea.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong><br \/>\nYou\u2019ve been very consistent \u2013 and persistent \u2013 about the importance of inventorying and understanding what biodiversity is out there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ed:<\/strong><br \/>\nBut the support being given for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalgeographic.org\/encyclopedia\/biodiversity\/\">biodiversity<\/a> studies and for conservation biology is paltry \u2013 it\u2019s a disgrace to the biological sciences. We\u2019ve just about dropped biodiversity studies in relation to all the other environmental sciences, and we\u2019re not pursuing it; we\u2019re not mapping the biodiversity of the earth nearly as fast as we should.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong><br \/>\nAnd why do you think that is?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ed:<\/strong><br \/>\nWell, the second half of the 20th century was a golden age of molecular biology, and it was one of the golden ages of the history of science. Molecular biology was so successful and made such a powerful alliance with the medical scientists that the two together just flourished. And they continue to flourish.<\/p>\n<p>The students of biodiversity, the ones we most need in science today, have an enormous task ahead of them. Studying model species is a great idea, but we need to combine that with biodiversity studies and have those properly supported because of the contribution they can make to conservation biology, to agrobiology, to the attainment of a sustainable world.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been too meek. Look at just how few spokesmen there are. It\u2019s hard to name other people who are prominent spokesmen in this area, and we need to get the message across somehow \u2013 including through the burgeoning crowd of mathematical-model-obsessed systems ecologists who are flooding into the area. We should make it clear to them, in one way or another, that they\u2019re going nowhere until they know what they\u2019re studying. It\u2019s like having a physiologist in the medical school and you haven\u2019t got the anatomy yet, you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re really \u2013&#8230;&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 750px; border: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/online.visual-paradigm.com\/share\/book\/the-next-step-in-saving-the-planet-e-o-wilson-and-sean-carroll-in-conversation-ze3he71v8?enforceShowPromotionBar=true\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":8440,"template":"","meta":{"_yoast_wpseo_title":"","_yoast_wpseo_metadesc":"Design flipbooks online. Keep the book content up-to-date with the instant update tool. 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